JCPenney

JCPenney

Wow, ASP really sucks! This is like th first site that doesn’t work at all in Mozilla Firefox. You’d think a business such as JC Penny would work a little harder to maker sure their site works in something other than M$.

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August 31, 2005 · Dustin · 5 Comments
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  • Jeremy

    I’m curious….what part of the JCPenney’s site doesn’t work in Firefox? I just browsed through a whole bunch of their pages and they all looked fine to me.

    Saying that ASP sucks just because something in JCPenney’s implementation of it didn’t work for you hardly seems fair. Sure, it has its pros & cons like any other platform (people have been arguing about that for years), but what happens on the server (ASP/J2EE/PHP/etc) has very little to do with whether it works in Firefox or not.

    Take a look around and I’m sure you’ll find plenty of sites running on ASP/.net that work just fine in Firefox. Be reasonable!

  • dustin

    It looks like they’ve been working on it. Still, this is all I see now: http://files.davisvillage.com/blog/jcpenny.gif

    No point in arguing about ASP with me. I’ve used it and I still think it sucks. You really have to code things manually to get them to display right. If you you their default settings of positioning everything on the page then you can’t deny that it will look terribly wrong in a standards compliant browser.

  • Jeremy

    Could it be that something in Firefox is blocking the images that make up JCPenney’s home page…the AdBlock extension maybe? Everything on that page, with the exception of what you posted in your screenshot, is an image, and they’re all hosted on http://a759.g.akamai.net. I’ve blocked ad images from that URL before, and I’ve had pages come up with major pieces missing, like this, because of it. Like I said, Firefox brings it up just fine for me – I’m pretty sure ASP is not to blame here.

    No need to argue about ASP/PHP/JSP – to me that’s almost like arguing Ford vs Chevy, or Coke vs Pepsi. I just get frustrated when I see people I respect bashing it over silly things like this. You’re right that the default “absolute positioning” setup is pretty lame – that was one of the first things I wanted to change about the IDE (and it HAS been changed in v2). Sure, it has its annoyances, but every product does.

  • http://www.nerdlance.com Dustin

    Good catch! I did have *akami.net* in my adblock. Ok, I apologize. I guess those who work for JCPenny could use some SEO tips… but that’s another blog for another day! They sure are image happy.

    I don’t think the ASP vs. PHP debate is really comparable to Ford vs. Chevy or Coke vs. Pepsi. Maybe they would be comparable is you could only drive Ford on certain paved roads while a Chevy could be driven on any road – and that Chevy was free and the Ford was not. Or maybe Coke held is recipe tightly secret and Pepsi allowed anyone to view its recipe and even modify it if they so desire.

    I’ve been to conferences that demo’d the new ASP 2005 version. They seem to be getting better as they adapt more PHP-isms, but still, it is nothing I would ever want to use.

  • http://www.vbknowledgebase.com Pon

    i agree some formatting loses in firefox hence alignment as well
    Vb Knowledgebase